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 Post subject: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:01 am 
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New guy here. I'm going to look at a C165 on Friday.

I would appreciate any advice on what to look for.

It's supposed to be a 16.5 hp, manual transmission, with 48" deck.

Will this engine mow at a decent speed with the 48" deck?

Any feedback on availability of parts would be greatly appreciated too.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Bill


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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:35 am 
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I can mow in 5th gear with a raider12 with a 48" deck pulling a 60" swisterfinish mower 9foot cut


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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:48 pm 
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If original, it should be a 16hp Kohler. Made from 1980-1981 and in 1984. It will mow fine....

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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:18 am 
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sounds like you don't know Wheel Horse.
if it is in sound working order the C tractors are beast and great workers
the 16 hp engine gives plenty of power for a 48" deck the biggest problem is keeping the deck from clogging in tall grass
I haven't tried them yet but the consensus is they are the thing to have good luck and welcome


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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:20 am 
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sorry I meant to say to add Gator blades


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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:08 pm 
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[quote="Rock"]sounds like you don't know Wheel Horse.


Who are you refering to?

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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:00 pm 
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I think that Rock was referring to me.

Thanks for the tip on the gator blades!

I know just enough about Wheel Horses to know that this should be the last riding mower I ever have to buy.

Here's my inspection list:

Make sure the engine will be cold when I get there. Check for smoke. Also, blip engine and check for smoke.

Run through all the gears.

Wiggle blades up and down and check for worn arbor bearings.

Grab wheels and wiggle to check for worn bearings.

Check for sloppy steering and try to pin down what is worn.

Run mower deck and check for unusual noises.

Check the oil level.

Can I easily check the oil level in the transmission?

Raise 1 rear wheel with tractor out of gear and spin that tire in each gear to check for anything unusual in the transmission.

What else?

Thanks guys! :D


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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:15 pm 
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Sounds like a good checklist. As an owner of alot of C-Series, I will say you can't go wrong. I have been mowing with a C-141 8-Speed for several years and it has a 48" deck. It has mowed flawlessly all those years, 2 acres a week. Before that, I mowed with a C-175, a C-161, a C-145, and even have mowed with a C-195 with a 60" rear finish mower and they all mow the same, great! The thing about owning a Wheel Horse is the interchangability of the attachments. This summer, I took the 1984 48" deck off the 1979 C-141 and put it on the 1981 C-175. As a kid, I mowed with a 1976 C-160 with the 48" deck and it could not be stopped.
Gator blades are nice. I have had them on my deck for several years....won't go back to regular blades.

Check the hubs for tightness on the axles, tranny oil dipstick is under the flip up seat. Parts are available although the only thing I ever replace is the original parts!

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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:20 pm 
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yes I was referring to farmerbill I did not mean to offend I was noting that he was new and did not seem to know how great these tractors are I have had 3 Cs and one D250 I am sorry to say I am down to 2 Cs all great tractors
The check list sounds good the one other thing I would check is the steering linkage physically pull up on the linkage to see if the ball joints in the link has come loose not something that would stop me from buying but a good negotiation tool and a pretty easy fix good luck and if you get it please post pictures


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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:51 am 
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Can anyone tell me what the overall length of a C165 is?

I'm trying to decide if I can load the C165 into the bed of my wife's shortbed F-150 with a tool box. With the tailgate down, I have 6' - 6" from the toolbox to the back edge of the tailgate. I think that tailgates are typically rated for 500 lbs., so I would probably back the tractor in and strap it down.

We do have a horse trailer I can pull, but it's a 3 hour drive and that horse trailer really sucks a lot of extra gas.

Edit: I just found some info online that indicates that the overall length of the 300s - 520H is 65-67", so it looks like I'm OK there, and a 520-H weighs just under 800 lbs, so if I back it in I should be OK there too.

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Bill


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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:14 am 
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Rock wrote:
yes I was referring to farmerbill I did not mean to offend I was noting that he was new and did not seem to know how great these tractors are I have had 3 Cs and one D250 I am sorry to say I am down to 2 Cs all great tractors
The check list sounds good the one other thing I would check is the steering linkage physically pull up on the linkage to see if the ball joints in the link has come loose not something that would stop me from buying but a good negotiation tool and a pretty easy fix good luck and if you get it please post pictures



No problem, once he gets a C-Series, he will know!!! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:16 am 
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Yea, you should be OK.

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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:13 am 
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Thanks Mike.


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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
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Length is 69" and weighs 600 lbs. That is out of the owners manual...

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 Post subject: Re: C165 Questions
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:14 am 
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Thanks for all the help. I bought the tractor yesterday. It runs and mows fine. The only things that I found that it needs is a new fuel line (the old line isn't leaking, but it's very brittle and ddry rotted), and it needs new rubber vibrations isolators between the engine and the frame. Anyone know where I can order these? Oh yeah, and an air filter.

I also need to order a manual for it.

Engine oil? Just straight 30 weight? Do I need to worry about finding non-detergent? Anyone run Rotella 15-45?

Transmission oil?

Got back after dark. Before I unload it, I'm going to take it to a car wash and clean it up. Then I'll post pictures.

Thanks for all the help guys! :D

Bill


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