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 Post subject: C-195 owner
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 am 
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Hi everyone,
I just found this site because I was checking Google for parts. I have a C-195 Wheel Horse Garden Tractor. I think it's from around 1982, not positive. I bought it about 8 years ago from the original owners. It came with all the manuals (BIG help!!), a 60" mower deck, snow/dozer blade,three point hitch and a rear rototiller (I can't find a belt big enough to drive the PTO!!), and tire chains.
Overall I really like it but have had more than my fair share of trouble with it over the years!! I currently am having what I believe is an electrical problem,turning the key does not engage the starter. Battery is fully charged, solenoid and starter work properly, replaced ignition switch, PTO switch is ok, still need to check brake switch and seat switch. I was able to use a jumper wire to start tractor today but it would only run as long as I kept the key turned.
I hope I can find and fix the problem soon!! I have 4 acres of lawn that needs to be mowed and NO money to buy a new mower!! I also hope this site can help me find some much needed parts at a reasonable cost!!
Dana Bennett
Forestville, NY


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 Post subject: Re: C-195 owner
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:19 am 
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The original pto belt was # 109829 1/2"x151.25" long. Are the pulleys wide enough to use a 5/8" wide belt? Not only the length is a problem but you need a belt designed to withstand the reverse bending over the flat idlers.

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 Post subject: Re: C-195 owner
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:40 am 
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Welcome. You have a rare find! To find a C-195 with 3 point AND rear PTO is amazing. I have one but had to buy both attachments. If oyu have the info off the ID plate on the flat panel under the steering wheel, we can ID it. It is fairly easy though, 1982 had the hyd. controls down behind your left knee and 1984 had them up on the side of the fender.
You need to get on ALL of the WH sites on the internet, better to help you out with info! Also need to take that beast to the 12th annual ALL Wheel Horse Show in Arendtsvile, Pa. this June!
Yahoo Groups:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wheelhorsegardentractors/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORS ... CTORSONLY/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORSECOLLECTORGROUP/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WheelHors ... jectGroup/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wheelhorseclassifieds/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wheelhors ... assifieds/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORS ... FIEDGROUP/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wheelhorsedecals/
http://whtractor.15.forumer.com/index.php?
Email me if you need any other help...

2005hd@roadrunner.com

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 Post subject: Re: C-195 owner
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:37 pm 
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Dana,
Most likely one of the safetys are at fault. There are 3 safetys on your tractor. Seat, pto, and break pedal. Any one of the three could be failing. The seat is directly under the seat and the 2 wires you can access from the trans adjusting hole. The pto is if your sitting on the tractor inside the right side inside the dash behind the battery and the brake safety is under the trans tunnel cover and on the bottom of the left side, this is hard to see let alone work on. If you bypass one at a time you will be able to determine which is failing. Start with the seat then pto and finally the brake.

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 Post subject: Re: C-195 owner
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:37 pm 
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Thanks guys!!

Garry,
Yes, that is the part number for the belt and the size but I can not find a place to buy a belt like that, it is longer than what I can find available. I do not know if the pulleys would fit a 5/8" belt or not but I will look. Problem now might be though that after just looking at the PTO manual that I may be missing or have mis-placed a few parts!! The lower rear pulleys, 2 on the left and 1 on the right.(just checked, one on the right is still mounted to the tractor) I will need to really look around here hoping I have just misplaced them!!

Mike,
I guess it was just the right time/right place i guess! I'm a truck driver and bought this from a customer I was making a delivery to. I had just bought a house with a little land and needed a mower. His Dad (original owner) had recently bought a new mower and wanted to sell the old one. I think I paid around a grand for it and they delivered it for me too!! (about 7o miles).
I just went out and checked the data plate below the steering wheel, next to ID# it says 0119KE01 and then a big space and 26358. The hydraulic controls are mounted on the left side at the bottom of the rear fender. Thanks for listing all those sites! I will try to get around and check them all out soon!

Steve,
I'm hoping you are right. I did replace the ignition switch but it was a used one from my Sears Craftsman that did work on that mower. They look the same, could the inside be different?? I did figure out how the PTO safety switch works with my tester light and it does work. Tried to do the same with the brake switch (not to bad to get to after removing both the top plate and left side panel but I did not finish checking it yet. I am wondering if it might be the seat switch because before I bought it the plug was disconnected and bypassed somehow, I think I need to remove the rear fenders to find the end of the plug as I can not find it from above, I can see the three wires (one for taillights, two for seat) but just not the end.

Thanks again!!
Dana Bennett
Forestville, NY


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 Post subject: Re: C-195 owner
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:29 pm 
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You got lucky on the ign. switch as most look the same but preform differently. But just in case I would pickup a new one to make sure its the correct one. As for the seat switch you should be able to pull the 2 wires up throught the hole, its the same as your pto switch and to jump it run a jumper wire between the two.
Heres a link to your pto. It has both parts daigram and list.
http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=toro ... TO%2C+1983

Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: C-195 owner
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:36 pm 
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I have it running now!!
it was my fault, it was the ignition switch. I put a used one in that was incorrect, bought a new one at my usual repair shop for $20.00+tax. Still took a while to get it to fire up but now is running!! My brother Al rolled the lawn with it on Saturday.
Dana Bennett.


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 Post subject: Re: C-195 owner
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:59 pm 
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Congrats! I got one and it is a beast. Hope to take it to the WH Show again this year if I can fit it in the trailer with all the others!!! It's big!!!

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